Ok your just using the ports different to how i have done,

Toxsick, i am having trouble loading the latest version but had not uninstalled an earlier version, nor too concerned yet, still several weeks till i have a boosted bike to play with .

Now 2.3 should be ok to download, please note that the boostfuel in that one is not yet tested. Other than boostfuel should be ok and stable.

so just a solenoid feeding the top of the wastegate, no mufflers or bleeds or anything right?  Just making sure want to resume testing very soon :)

within past week 2 more bikes dyno tuned with boost fuel.

1 of them with larger upper injectors

the other stock motor'd bike at 6 psi of boost or so only (didn't change anything from my map and AFR looks pretty good)

More details as soon as owners agree I can post details.

Stock motor'd bike (stock compression), dropped my basemap in and didn't tune anything i dont think and AFR looked pretty close. 

-- Edited by smithabusa on Wednesday 19th of May 2010 12:09:39 PM

no just gate spring

Just tested some last night with great results, post on sh.org turbo talk: )

got a 30 minute ride in before it poured, never got a chance on the nice flat smooth road to get a sweet datalog, but this is close enough, you will see i never get above 80% throttle, in 1st gear i am only 40-50% throttle,

gate springis 6 psi, 1st gear only 4-5 psi with so light in the throttle, but the rest of the gears working out quite nicely :)  I am sure had i kept in it 100% throttle boost traces would have been much nicer, but man a stock arm is a trip LOL.

1:  4.5 psi
2:  6.0 psi
3:  8.5 psi
4: 10.0 psi
5: 13.0 psi
6: 14.0 psi

Petrik, YOU ROCK BUDDY!!!

 

-- Edited by smithabusa on Friday 4th of June 2010 11:56:04 PM

umm YES, for sure :)  I just need to get used to 300+ stock wheelbase'd hp in the upper gears, it pulls pretty hard, i guess the yellow bike pulls harder, but with a 6 over arm it seems so much easier haha.

Petrik once again THANKS SO MUCH!

stocker wrote:

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cool, i got to agree, thanks petrik for all you do for ALL of the hayabusa owners around the world who use your software........

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X3!!!! Petrik, Don't know what we would do without you Bud!  Thank You for ALL the Hard work you Put into Helping us all go Faster, with a Safer Tune! 

About a week or so ago RCC Turbos tuned another gen II turbo bike with boostfuel, something along the lines of 190 hp on spring pressure up to 310 hp at 12-13 psi of boost.  Another successful story :)

greg do you have p-n-p map sensor harness available....

in stock....stocker :)

richard at RCC turbos has a bunch of them as well in stock

-- Edited by smithabusa on Thursday 17th of June 2010 02:47:21 AM

If I remember correctly some of the tables run out at 12400rpm, after that the max value will be used. This is the reason why initially RPM limiter max was set to 12000rpm, but now increased as per users request.

On turbofuel module it is fairly easy to add some more rpm rows if needed.

We again tuned one turbofuel bike here - and I think we are getting to a point where the software is just used, no more getting much feedback on things that need to be improved.

hi i'm new here,
so ee2 does fueling by boost????

and now for gen 1 nothing yet for contolling fuel by boost????

Does the ignition retard portion of the boost control function as intended?

Any particular reason for concern ?

Just a carryover, as you set the max boost perngear that was easiest route to implement.

Thanks, now all we would need to do is to change these numbers below. There is two places where a conversion is needed. The first one is for vacuum area and the second one is for boost area.

If you can calculate the new numbers for this new sensor I can easily put a button to ecueditor that lets the user to select which boost sensor is used.

EDIT - The examble of 0x52/0xFF *5V -> 1,61V refers to ambient pressure of 1bar in the above message where GM3bar sensor 1bar is 1,62V.


// conversion for GM3bar sensor, vacuum area here the 0 bar for suzuki sensor is 0xB7 and 0bar for GM 3 bar sensor is 0x50 (if I remember corractly). Numbers are kPa values, ie. 100=1bar.

// -100,-90 -80  -70   -60   -51   -40   -30   -21    0     +20    +35  kPa, 35 is the max for Suzuki sensor
0x00, 0x08, 0x10, 0x18, 0x20, 0x27, 0x30, 0x38, 0x3F, 0x50, 0x60, 0x6C, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF,  // 0x55814
0x24, 0x33, 0x41, 0x50, 0x5E, 0x6B, 0x7C, 0x8B, 0x97, 0xB7, 0xD4, 0xEA, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF, 0xFF}; // 0x55824

// This is the boostmap, i.e. 0.01bar the value is 0x52 which is appr 0x52/0xFF * 5V voltage level

const unsigned char boostmap[] = {       
// 1     9    16    23    34    41    59    72  new  88    new   106   121   134   152   168       This is the positive pressure to ecumap
0x52, 0x58, 0x5E, 0x63, 0x6C, 0x73, 0x81, 0x8b, 0x92, 0x98, 0xa0, 0xa6, 0xb2, 0xbd, 0xcb, 0xd8,   // 0x55844

-- Edited by PetriK on Monday 20th of December 2010 06:18:19 PM

It has been brought to my attention that the higher levels of boost should not need to be on only 2psi increments, rather 5psi increments would be sufficient and therefore I propose the following data table be implemented as the selestable sensor ranges. This would only add 3 additional colums to the current table.

kPa	Psi	Volt (SSI-5bar)	Volt (SSI HEX)	Volt (GM 3bar)	Volt (Suzuki)
0	-14.7	0.50	19	0.00	0.00
10	-13.2	0.58	1D	0.16	0.38
20	-11.8	0.65	21	0.32	0.72
30	-10.3	0.73	25	0.48	1.10
40	-8.8	0.81	29	0.64	1.46
50	-7.4	0.89	2D	0.79	1.81
60	-5.9	0.97	31	0.96	2.18
70	-4.4	1.05	35	1.12	2.52
80	-3.0	1.12	39	1.28	2.89
101	0.2	1.29	42	1.62	3.64
110	1.5	1.36	45	1.76	3.79
120	2.9	1.44	49	1.91	3.94
130	4.3	1.51	4D	2.07	4.09
140	5.8	1.59	51	2.23	4.24
150	7.4	1.68	55	2.40	4.39
170	10.3	1.83	5D	2.72	4.54
190	13.3	1.99	65	3.04	4.69
200	14.7	2.07	69	3.20	4.84
230	19.2	2.31	75	3.68	4.99
244	21.0	2.40	7A
259	23.0	2.51	80
272	25.0	2.62	85
300	29.0	2.83	90
313	31.0	2.94	95
327	35.0	3.15	A0
341	40.0	3.42	AE
355	45.0	3.68	BB

-- Edited by sportbikeryder on Monday 20th of December 2010 10:21:19 PM

That is certainly a possibility, however there are likely a fair number of bikes that are already tuned with the current mapping resolution.

Is it practical to make a sensor select radio button with one option being the map exactly as it is now for 3 bar usage and to preserve the tunes of already mapped engines, and have the 5 bar map with modified cells? Perhaps keeping the lower ranges the same as they are now in order to at least (potentially) be able to transfer some of the drivability (low boost) map data to the new map?

This would be similar to the extended map option currently available to extend the map up to 31 psi.

Richard of RCC Turbos (Canada) has expressed interest AND has a Gen2 turbo bike that he can test the new sensor with. He has suggested that resolution at 25psi and above need only be in ~5psi increments.

I believe a chart with 2-4-6-8-10-12-14-16-18-20-22-25-30-35-40-45 would work well and not cause current bike compatiblity issues (through use of a sensor select button). If Zero needs to be included, then the top can be cut off at 40 psi (VERY few bikes over 40 PSI, especially without a standalone ECU)


Edit: Chart below with increments shown as in text above

Ecu Editor GEN2 Boost Fueling Manifold Pressure Sensor Conversions 12-21-2010
kPa	Psi	Volt (SSI-5bar)	Volt (SSI HEX)	Volt (GM 3bar)	Volt (Suzuki)
0	-14.7	0.50	19	0.00	0.00
10	-13.2	0.58	1D	0.16	0.38
20	-11.8	0.65	21	0.32	0.72
30	-10.3	0.73	25	0.48	1.10
40	-8.8	0.81	29	0.64	1.46
50	-7.4	0.89	2D	0.79	1.81
60	-5.9	0.97	31	0.96	2.18
70	-4.4	1.05	35	1.12	2.52
80	-3.0	1.12	39	1.28	2.89
101	0.2	1.29	42	1.62	3.64
114	2.0	1.39	46	1.76	3.79
128	4.0	1.50	4C	1.91	3.94
141	6.0	1.60	51	2.07	4.09
155	8.0	1.71	57	2.23	4.24
169	10.0	1.82	5C	2.40	4.39
183	12.0	1.92	62	2.72	4.54
197	14.0	2.03	67	3.04	4.69
210	16.0	2.14	6D	3.20	4.84
224	18.0	2.24	72	3.68	4.99
238	20.0	2.35	77
252	22.0	2.46	7D
272	25.0	2.62	85
307	30.0	2.88	93
341	35.0	3.15	A0
376	40.0	3.42	AE
410	45.0	3.68	BB

-- Edited by sportbikeryder on Tuesday 21st of December 2010 04:44:47 PM