You need to click Disable Pair button on Advanced settings to have it off from disturbing the nitrous control module.
Will synchronize it so that it is disabled automatically when I add some more features (fuel activation delay to compensate line lenght) to the nitrous controller.
This is still work in progress for testing purposes.
For tuning the fuel add the default settings is most likely way too rich for any normal configuration, as part of the testing I would expect us to find correct enrichment values for a given jet size(s).
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Funny, with No LED hooked up in neutral and 1st gear the relay cycles at WOT with DSM button held, but lightly, and not enough to allow even an air solenoid (much smaller current to open than NOS solenoid).
Just like gen 1 relay goes between ECU and battery, terminal with fuse holder goes to battery +, other terminal goes to battery -
2 pin molex connector just needs 2 pins crimped onto your solenoid, then insert into connector and plug in.
Pair valve just plug into the connector where octopus solenoid was connected.
actually bike is clean as hell, its sweaty as hell, been cold here and today its 45 degrees LOL
yes its leaking some, petrik is seeing same thing, yesterday with a relay and LED hooked to the circuit the led would blink dimly in 1st gear but relay wouldn't click
now relay clicks softly but doesn't actually activate the air solenoid i have connected to it
Funny, with No LED hooked up in neutral and 1st gear the relay cycles at WOT with DSM button held, but lightly, and not enough to allow even an air solenoid (much smaller current to open than NOS solenoid).
Yes, there is ripple voltage (very small duty cycle out there). Will look into it when have time, should not really affect test use.
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The first 2 are setup for solenoid under the tank per Stocker and Toxxic's plans, but my generic one once tested to work etc will probably go to hump unless customer specifies differently.
Name: Hayabusa ECUeditor for K2-K7, K8- and BKing models Version: 2.1.0.33 - Ripple voltage duty 0% fixed, this may changed the solenoid running Hz slightly (-1/25).
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ign cut only doesn't seem to work very well, need both fuel and ignition cut. I used that on my wife's bike with a 50 shot (230 hp on spray) and it shifted very good, air shifter, but kill is the same either air or quick shifter, i was using 60 ms kill time, which was a tad on the long side.
Name: Hayabusa ECUeditor for K2-K7, K8- and BKing models Version: 2.1.0.33 - Ripple voltage duty 0% fixed, this may changed the solenoid running Hz slightly (-1/25).
Well Greg, Have you tested this yet? Get on it buddy!
well ok but imagine what is going to happen when only nitrous goes into the chamber with no fuel.
if u tested Greg then it shouldn't be any problem with that but if there is a problem then we must cut nos too when upshifting
The problem is actually the opposite, If you only cut teh ignition and leave the fuel, both fuel and nitrous will enter the cylinder, and then the exhaust. This sometimes results in a loud exhaust backfire. Cutting the fuel prevents this for the most part.
The first 2 are setup for solenoid under the tank per Stocker and Toxxic's plans, but my generic one once tested to work etc will probably go to hump unless customer specifies differently.
Looks Great Greg! Thanks for Jumping all over this Project for us......Says ALOT, when your not really even a N2O Guy!
i like it, just hate filling bottles, on my wifes bike with 2 lb bottle i only wanted to ride about 20 minutes, then bottle was empty and bike wasn't fun anymore LOL
no problem guys, excited to see if this works out perfect first time out for you guys. You guys have access to dyno and wideband?
i like it, just hate filling bottles, on my wifes bike with 2 lb bottle i only wanted to ride about 20 minutes, then bottle was empty and bike wasn't fun anymore LOL
no problem guys, excited to see if this works out perfect first time out for you guys. You guys have access to dyno and wideband?
I have a Wide Band(Wego3), and I'm going to call my Dyno Guy tomorrow and see if his Dyno is Still Down??? If not I will throw it on there As Well.
The first 2 are setup for solenoid under the tank per Stocker and Toxxic's plans, but my generic one once tested to work etc will probably go to hump unless customer specifies differently.
Looks Great Greg! Thanks for Jumping all over this Project for us......Says ALOT, when your not really even a N2O Guy!
very nice greg, i still want to pay.....
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Petrik , If you are running high fuel values already (Oxygenated fuel) and you are having a substantial hit of No2 The fuel value will exeed 300. Is this an issue or must one just check duty cycle of Injectors while spraying or fit bigger secondaries ?
petrik, i was editing the nitrous control module today, i was not able to edit the individual cells, rather i had to use cntrl + or - and it edited it that way in a % point of view, is this why you wanted % changes for the jet changes...?
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Yes, editing is limited to +,-,*,/ last two working only when div/mul with 1.05 (i.e. 5%) is more than an integer.
Fuel row on the nitrous control module is more or less absolute % to fuel pulsewidth, but I have not tested this with gen2 in dyno myself yet so that is one item to be confirmed with testing. With gen1 when adding 10% to fuel you were good for 32-34 jet size etc.
Today received the following info on duty cycles (Thanks tor greg/ryan): 75-100% duty -> 100% flow 50% duty -> 75% flow 40% duty -> 50% flow etc... 20% or less duty -> 0% flow
The duty cycle is another item to be confirmed over testing. We will get a picture of it when we have a couple of bikes tuned for differen duty%/fuel% settings. The rest we can calculate from jet/bottle pressures.
When we have this kind of basics right we can start to add gear ramping rates and injector delay times etc where the duty cycles are not anymore fixed.
EDIT - The max duty cycle if I remember correctly from scoping the fuel signal earlier was somewhere around 460-500 which is around 85-100% fuel add. This depends on pressure etc. Obviously the fuel pump needs to be already at values around 300 or the flow is not anymore constant. (This is an assumption knowing the pump volume, not exact tested number).
I will add at some point this kind of fuel pulsewidth information to the engine data monitoring screen in a more graphical and informative way than what it is today.
-- Edited by PetriK on Monday 25th of January 2010 08:22:32 PM
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Marc, I need to see some Pics of the Back(Tail Section)of your Busa if I could Please? I would like to see the Factory Decals on that Paint scheme? Maybe you could send me some to my email? Thanks Bro
Marc, I need to see some Pics of the Back(Tail Section)of your Busa if I could Please? I would like to see the Factory Decals on that Paint scheme? Maybe you could send me some to my email? Thanks Bro
ToXZicK@gmail.com
phil, whatever you need...i got plenty of pics while i was changing everything....lmk what you need....
phil,i an giong to download to photobucket...and send what i have to you...
-- Edited by stocker on Wednesday 27th of January 2010 02:36:46 AM
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thanks for joining us nick...maybe we can get ALOT of insight from your expertise with nitrous....AND with busa motors in general......MAYBE we can utilize your spray bar as a common spraybar in which we can test from........
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Fella'z, for some that may not know this Gentleman, allow Me to do the Honers, if I may? Nick AKA Gixx1300R, is a N20 Gawd(one of the Most informed Fast Gas Guru's I've ever spoke too). He make's and designs His own Spray Bar, Patten and Tested By him....Along with others that he has Put Numerous smiles on there Faces! He is a Site Sponsor on Hayabusa.Org as well as Psychobike.com. One of the Nicest and down to earth people there is...Cant say enough about him, GREAT GUY!
With our Sir Petrik, and Now Nick along with all the other countless AWESOME Folks on here, I know we are all in for a Ride........Very Exciting!!!!!
alright guy's i pm'ed nick....A.K.A gixx1300r or gixx1525r...i asked him if he had flowed his spraybar setup as low as 30 hp and he replied that he has flowed and documeneted it "as " low as 15hp....!...so i think we shoul estabilish a baseline using the same equipment so as the beta testers are testing the rest can follow, and the results and changes will be the same or "comparible"....so what does everyone think........?...heck...why not.....if anyone has anything better let us know....
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gixx has the ability to "accurately" measure the flow rate on his spray bars....if you have any questions.....he is now a registered member here...or i can provide his pm adresson "both" of the other premier busa sites......
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