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Shiftlight Issues / bugs


I have not yet had the opportunity to test out the shiftlight functionality, however a user on Suzukihayabusa.org has been having difficulty with it.

 

John

http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/forum/index.php?topic=155432.0;topicseen

Summary below, I will ask the user to post here so we can debug.

 

 

I have not started the bike (airbox off), but when you put the bike in neutral, the light is on.  Step into first, it shuts off.

Will it shut off in neutral when the bike is running??

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went out and got the bike started.  With the bike in neutral, the light is on, engine on or off.  First gear, it goes out with the kick stand down, engine off.  Kickstand up, engine on, light is on as well

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Well, went and reflashed it and no matter what, the light is on.

First gear, engine running, clutch in or out, the light is on all the time.  Second gear it is on all the time as well.

I want to connect the hot side of the LED to the orange wire, right?

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How do the boxes need to be checked on the PAIR valve??

PAIR active
PAIR disabled

PAIR normal
PAIR closed

Right now I have it set as PAIR disabled and PAIR normal



-- Edited by sportbikeryder on Wednesday 28th of September 2011 03:43:06 PM

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Thanks to Sportbike! He has been helping me some over at the SH.Org

I have been playing with the ECU editor a little since I got my Gen 2. Had it on my Gen 1, but never messed with it except for the Schnitz tune and N20 map, which worked excellent.

Saw the shiftlight function, and liked the idea. Got the LED and went to wire it up. As the above shows, no matter what, the light is on all the time. Launch does not work, and I have not ridden it to see what the shift light does, since it is on all the time.... Put it in gear, clutch in, and revved it up to and past the set point, to see if it did anything, and the light stays on.

Thanks!


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has anyone else had any success with the shift light? I have not got a shift light on my bike so I am unable to test. What type of shift light are you guys using?

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I bought an LED cluster similar to what Smith sells.

 

Six LEDs.  I may wire up a 4 LED light and see if it matters, though I suspect it won't



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I think the resistance of the shift light may have to be close to that of the PAIR valve's circuits, that may give you something to look into?

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jkwool wrote:

I think the resistance of the shift light may have to be close to that of the PAIR valve's circuits, that may give you something to look into?


 Sure, I will check it with my meter tomorrow and see what I come up with



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ok good luck, post back up with your results. hopefully its just a matter of matching the resistance of the leds to the pair.

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Ludicrous Speed wrote:
jkwool wrote:

I think the resistance of the shift light may have to be close to that of the PAIR valve's circuits, that may give you something to look into?


 Sure, I will check it with my meter tomorrow and see what I come up with


 You may just be able to hook the pair solenoid backup and put the LED in series on the ground leg if it needs the higher resistance. Or try an incandescent bulb to test it. Or relay.



-- Edited by sportbikeryder on Thursday 29th of September 2011 10:33:30 AM

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yeah good thinking John ;)

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jkwool wrote:

yeah good thinking John ;)


 I'd try it out, but I really don't want to run my engine anymore with it still making noise. no



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OK, went out this morning and tried it. Wired it as follows:

Or/wht on harness plug to corresponding pin on pair
Pin on other side of pair to Red side of LED
Black side of LED to grey wire on harness plug.

Have the ECU editor set as follows:
Shift light Active
Nitrous Control NOT active
Boost Fuel NOT active

PAIR disabled
PAIR valve normal

The light still stays on all the time.

If something does not look right, LMK.




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Any updates or suggestions?

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i have not looked at this, i will see if i can make some time to check it out in the next couple of days, just had a whole bunch of other sh!te to deal with recently;)

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OK, no problem.....  Thanks for all you are doing, I appreciate it!



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I have finally had a chance to take a look at this code tonight :) sorry for the delay, to my eye to code (and assembly code) looks ok, has anyone tried hooking up a stock suzuki pair valve and enabling the shift/launch light code to see of the pair valve is activated at the appropriate time. If it works with the PAIR valve but not with the LED shift light then we can concentrate on how to configure the LED lights to work (e.g. look at the resistance of the shift lights vs the PAIR valve), if it does not work with the PAIR valve then i know there is a core problem with the code that needs to be fixed ;)

Cheers -Justin.

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anybody ever get anything figured out with the shift light?

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Two Wheel Werkz wrote:

anybody ever get anything figured out with the shift light?


 Did you try programming one and hooking it up and have issues? If so, post what type of bulb you used and what the issues were.



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has anyone tried hooking up a pair valve and tested the shift light to see if it activates the pair valve?

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Thanks John, i will ohm my pair valve, VS my shift light.....quick test will be pair valve actiation using shift light actvitation, i will remove the plastic this weekend...



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Can someone tell me what connector is used for plug-in play at pair valve connector. Basically, I want to unplug the pair and plug-in a shift light.

I am guessing from Easter Beaver but, I don't know which connector.

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Where are you located Busa Quick? If you have the stock housing, I believe I have the terminals (I'll ave to check). If so I will send you a pair of them.


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 I am located in Illinois 62246

 

My e-mail is buddrinker59 at Yahoo.com

replace the at with @

 

Let me know paypal and price I will send you my full addy.

 

Thanks,

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Hmmm....I probably have those pins too, just don't know which one it is.

This one? Male on bike, Female on Pair?


Just trying to figure out what to send to Busa Quick.




-- Edited by sportbikeryder on Friday 3rd of February 2012 12:05:04 AM

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Mark (Busa Quick), Can you confirm that the photo below is the connector that is on the stock PAIR valve? I don;t have the stock ends on my harness.

John

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Thats gen 1 John
gen 2 is a small waterproof connector

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Thats it :) left for pair right for bike

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John i have 50 of the connectors coming, i can send you 1 when i get them in about a week if you like. They are the same pins as the gps connector, sidestand, etc.

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I have them as well. I was just going to send Busa Quick some pins so he can interface with his own housing.

 

They are just the standard summitomo pins.

 

So the pair valve side is Male and the bike side is female? Greg W/ Greg S?



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2 Pole .090 WP MT Connector 'Special D'.

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/Sealed/SM-MT/sm-mt.html



-- Edited by sportbikeryder on Friday 10th of February 2012 11:33:25 PM

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 I did get your e-mail sportbikeryder thanks.

 Sorry for not posting in a while, I have been busy on many things. I have made some progress on the simulator and I have been ordering components and trying to write code.

 At the moment, the connectors are only a small issue. I am trying to make the simulator run off the microprocessor as much as possible. I am working with a LCD display, Digital Pots, and may have to have more than one processor to split some of the work. I will update my thread later.

 If someone could tell me the part numbers I would like to order the connectors.

 Otherwise, I will get with Smithbusa.



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sportbikeryder wrote:



2 Pole .090 WP MT Connector 'Special D'.

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/Sealed/SM-MT/sm-mt.html



-- Edited by sportbikeryder on Friday 10th of February 2012 11:33:25 PM


 Got it thanks!



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Anyone make any progress on Shiftlight testing?

My bike now has at least a frame, front end, and swingarm put together. Tore the top end of the engine apart last night as well. Once I get the motor fixed and back together, and installed, along with some accessory mounting brackets, I will start on wiring and plumbing. Once the plumbing and wiring are done I'll finally be able to troubleshot myself again.

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I have it working fine. I posted about it here...

http://ecuhacking.activeboard.com/t44475321/shift-light-now-in-drag-tools/

I hadn't noticed this thread when I replied on the other...

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