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ECU Editor Questions..


I finally got to the track yesterday and my day with ECU Editor was going very crappy. My day consisted of not being able to datalog anything. THe AFR shows up in ENG DATA and DATALOGGING Screen, but the datalog files are empty. So I read the whole thread about not being able to datalog that dkagan started.

I am running 07 ECU 21h60 and harness on my 06 gsxr 1000. So I was running BUZKA's 08 BIN FIle with DMS Air Shifter turned on and that was getting no datalog info. SO I switched it from General to US and same results. So I flashed a stock 21H60 file onto the bike and couldn't even get any datalogging files. I have woolich racing log box and it is configed for 1 sec of delay and 1 degree of temperature with engine running.

So here's my questions....

1) What am I doing wrong?! Hahaha.

2) To read the log files I noticed that the bike had to be off and the logbox powered through USB cable to see / read them, is this just me or anyone else have that?

3) My bike is running SUPER lean, so I looked at my old 06 BIN files through romraider. The fuel settings on that are in the thousands but in ECU editor its only 3 digits.Fuel Tables.jpg

4) So since I can't datalog, I put the bike on a stand and hooked my laptop up to it and went to the DATALOG screen and created a log file where I held the throttle and ran through all the gears. Why is it not showing AFR on the spreadsheet? Anyone else have this or just me? It shows it while I am making the log file but not on the data, which by the way is about 19-20 AFR. :(

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I need help.



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So you are not even getting a .wrl file on the log box? try deleting the logbox.cfg file and leave the defaults and see if it logs after the engine is at operating temp (i.e. 75'c) is the green status light on the log box flashing when the bike is running?

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Your bike will not be running at 19-20, thats defaulting from no input, you either need to check the wideband boxes on both the advanced editor screen and logging screen are ticked and the logging screen calibrated for your controller , or check you have a 0-5v output from your wideband controller

the 3 digit numbers are just in an easier to read fomat, the 4 are in raw form , the ecu still gets the same info

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Yes all the boxes are checked and to verify my Wideband is working. I hooked my gauge to it and compared it to the eng data in Ecu editor and then put a butane lighter up to the sensor and watched both Ecu editor and my gauge drop and come back up when I removed the lighter.

In reference to clutch switch, I know that works because I run a 2 step through Ecu editor. Also on the Eng Data screen as I squeeze clutch it goes on and off.

In reference to temp, it's got no cooling system and a resistor in the sensor wire so it always thinks its 176 degrees Fahrenheit.

Justin,

I got log files when it had BUZKA bin file but no log files when I flashed a stock 07. Thing I never did try though was the filters, so next I need to get it to create a log file again because I deleted the others thinking they were empty. I never paid attention to the green lights but I will check next time.

What about the manual log file I created running the laptop and it not recording AFR in the table? Also is it normal to have the bike off to read log files? It seems very particular to the order of events.

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I am running a stripped down bike with a 16oz fuel cell. No cooling, no charging, and very little gas so it's a bit difficult for me to do some things but I will try all suggestions.

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This sounds like it is just config to me so keep nutting at it, you dont have to switch the bike off to pull the logs, you just have to plug in a usb cable and the log box will appear as a usb hard disk on your pc and you will be able to see the info. Try logging so it produces the .wrl file and then use the Convert .wrl to .csv menu option on the File menu to produce a .csv file so you can take a look at what is being logged in a more readable format.

Cheers

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ok so im not sure what i did but i flashed back on BUZKA bin file which is 08, and it started logging. somethings i noticed though are that probably 2 out of 10 times when I start the bike, depending on what i did with the switch on the box it won't log. like to go from engine data mode to middle position on the switch if i did it with the bike on the log wouldn't start. it seems like i have to turn the bike off and then switch it to normal running mode and then turn the bike back on. but either way i did get logs!

ok so questions about these logs....

1) In the data viewer screen, when i open up a log file to look at all the different data points. Selecting the "autotune map" I get a whole map with a bunch of different colors and even the text is different, some is bold, some is regular, some is italic. what do the colors and different texts mean?
AT Map.jpg

especially when the only data log points are a small portion, is this just the program "Smoothing" the fuel table?

AT Map 2.jpg

2) When I convert it to csv, there is still no AFR on that chart. Does everyone else get AFR?

3) In the data logger screen where you can data log using the laptop. There is a 0V set at 7.35 and 5V set at 22.39 how were these numbers determined? How do I know what my 5V reading is when my gauge only goes to 18. Basically do I need to set these numbers? And then on top of that does my datalogged data from above get affected if I change these numbers on this screen? When my bike is running this screen says AFR is around 20, but the datalogged data above says my AFR is around 15?

4) THis is just a confirmation, but when ECU Editor makes recommendations on the Autotune map, it is doing that to MS0 right?

Sorry for the long ass questions, I promise I am paying it forward and bringing this to more people. So many people with ECU Editor version bikes are still running power commander and are talking about going to Bazzazz because it can tune better, so I make sure to fill them in. Justin I refer everyone to your site, thanks for the help with all this.



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You can find some explanation in this thread:

http://www.suzukib-king.org/t5821-major-update-to-ecu-editor-auto-tune-functionality?highlight=autotune

 

Cells using fontstyle bold and italic are those modified because of the smoothing algorithm.

Those cells would remain unchanged if the smoothing algorithm had been disabled (optimization level set to 0).

 



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Yes the smoothing affects the whole table, i have opened a blank table before and applied autotune just to smooth a table, twice gets it nice ,

I think the mso-ms1 thing is its tuning the table your using , you could confirm that by putting a marker number in somewhere obvious like 300 at 80%/8000rpm and seeing in the autotune map/untuned map as you tick and untick the box

the wideband numbers are innovate's calibration, my WBo2 uses 9and 19, but due to voltage variation i have it set to 9.5 and 19.5 to match my gauge


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Ok so how can I i figure out what 0 volts is equivalent to and 5 volts is equivalent to? Call Wideband commander? Or can I go off the fact that with bike not running the AFR is 22.1 and measure the voltage for that? Ideas?

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Any reference to a free air calibration ? or do you have a way to view the wideband commander output other than editor ,

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Maj750 wrote:

Yes the smoothing affects the whole table, i have opened a blank table before and applied autotune just to smooth a table, twice gets it nice ,



 Chalk that one up to tuning tip of the week. Damn good idea Greg!



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Wideband commander output:

0V =10
5V=18



http://www.widebandcommander.com/techtips.htm#DataAcqu


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ya know, i looked forever for that information and ended up having to wait on hold for 45 minutes with dynojet to get that info. but yes 0 is 10 and 5 is 18. they said its a formula, (Voltage x 1.6) +10 gives the AFR on a wideband commander.

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